ExactShooting.com Custom Sizing Die – Experiment #1 Results

So we have initial results. I’d like to thank you all for the views on my video.

We will be testing this die set more over the next year. This is out of my pocket and out of my own curiosity. I have the credit card bills and had the arguments with my wife to show for it. I must caution, because of some things people seem to have in their heads, that this isn’t ever going to make a 1″ gun into a .5″ gun. Anyone suggesting such a thing is either a fool or a liar. What you should be expecting is to reduce variability in your ammo which reduces things like flyers & SD’s. Effects on group size, maybe small ones should be expected as a normal effect of better consistency but because barrel harmonics are involved there so heavily it’s best to keep your hopes in check and out of the land of silliness.

I set up a partially blinded experiment with unfired, 2x fired and >5x fired cases. We (Coach and I) sized up 50rds of each from my Exact die and 50 of each from Coach’s Redding die and tested that in Coach’s rifle. Coach’s rifle has somewhere over 1900rds down the pipe now which is a concern as you’ll see soon. We set the ammo up identically in everything from components to neck tension. We ran 10 shot groups which were composed of 2 non-consecutive 5-shot groups fired at the same aim point. Coach loaded, packed and labelled the ammo boxes (labels are “1” and “2”) and didn’t tell me till after the shooting was done which was which. I pulled the rounds from the boxes, logged data and called the target to engage while coach did the shooting. That way neither of us knew during shooting which ammo was being fired at any given time. That was the best way I could think of for me to pull out experimenter induced bias with a research team of 2.

The result of the first accuracy test was null. That is to say that the numbers difference in average group size was not outside the level of statistical noise. The exception was with brand new brass. It always shot more consistently than reloaded brass and so I removed those results from the full data set due to the noise they introduced. We also weren’t meant to be testing new brass as that would not apply anyway but I wanted that data for another experiment I’ve been running. This is all precisely what was expected. I expected no big result (but certainly hoped for one) in accuracy simply by going to full length resizing and having extremely consistent neck tension and headspace.

Because the result is null though, we’ll re-run the experiment on that rifle just before we replace the barrel, just to verify the results reproduce reliably. We also did some velocity testing as part of that and there was no statistical change in average velocities or SD’s except that in the new brass loads but it was more consistent set to set. Why pull the barrel? The rifle used for that run of the experiment now has ~1900 rounds through it in 6XC with a single load spec (38.5gr H4350, F210M, Norma brass, 115gr HBN coated DTAC). The load is mild; generating only 2800fps, but we know that that barrel is within a few hundred of being pulled on principle; if not actual need, as far as match work goes and it may not be capable of the repeatable accuracy that might show up with the Exact die. So, we’ll try another barrel. A new one. Actually, a new two! So stay tuned, there’s more to come.

In September I purchased 2x new barrels which I got as blanks from the same production run (from Black Hole Weapons). I purchased a new custom reamer in 6XC that produces a chamber that is very tight to the dimensions of the Exact die. Thankfully you can order a reamer with any number of customizations and it’s still the same price as a custom reamer with just 1 custom dimension. Unfortunately it takes weeks for such a reamer to be made. Over the winter I handed the whole works over to a gunsmith friend of mine that also makes ultra-precise gauges as a business. So, he has the equipment and skills to set up barrels that are truly as identical as we could make them and identical enough for a useful experiment to come out of it despite a sample size that’s extremely small.

Anyway, I got both barrels cut, profiled and chambered identically. It was at great cost too. The cost to set each one up was double what I normally pay him to set up a barrel for me for each barrel with over 15 hours of work on each one. These are our new match barrels for the next 2 seasons too. Coach and I will be shooting from the same ammo box so we can share data. Maybe we’ll pick up a few points on same-day wind calls.

We did have a non-null result and from a different direction, which I also predicted. That was that with loads that were sized with my ExactShooting.com die we never had trouble closing the bolt. It was, in fact, always exactly the same effort. On the cases that we sized on the Redding neck die that Coach uses bolt close effort was either not much or a TON. Some post-facto testing later on with coach’s FL die showed the same random bolt close effort. This is obviously due to random headspacing which means that Coach’s FL die probably needs a thou or two buzzed off the bottom. Irrelevant though because we’re testing what’s available out of the box and his FL die out of the box didn’t cut it so I suspect that a lot of FL dies out there may be a little long or short and aren’t sizing things like people think they are.

That is only the results from a well used barrel. We will be running this exact same test using the 2 newly set up barrels. One will be on the same gun (Coach’s match rifle) while its twin which now has just under 400 rounds on it is on a different my “Hot Dog Gun” match rifle. I don’t expect any difference but I could wind up being surprised. The new barrel on Hot Dog Gun is extremely accurate so far, better than Coach’s rifle on its first day. We’ve already developed a load for the new barrel that runs things a bit faster (2980fps) so hopefully with more pressure more differences might start to manifest.

One of the cool things about the ES die is you can pull the body/shoulder portion out and still use the neck sizing portion which itself is easily adjustable for neck tension and neck sizing depth. When you start getting hard bolt close you can dial in .0005″ or .001″ or .0015″ or whatever amount of push-back on the shoulder with an easy click adjustment and know it’ll give that to you exactly. We’ll be running a neck tension accuracy test here real soon. We’ll see if .0005″ increments makes real differences on paper. First though, I’m ordering some brand new brass for that test.

Cost is fairly high for these dies but not unprecedented. That’s true but, beside the point. If you have the money then that’s not an issue anyway. Functionality is THE issue. It’s perfectly functional and makes it super easy to dial in neck tension at .0005″ increments for those really finicky loads, to dial neck sizing depth at .020″ increments and to dial how far back you actually push your shoulders in .0005″ increments. They’ll make one to a reamer print too. How precise are the dies? Well I had my machinist do some gauging to see if they were that precise and he was pretty darned impressed.

For benchrest guys and F-class guys, I think this is really packing the potential to up their game a bit but only because those guys tend toward having done everything else already. BR and F-class are the only places I can think of of offhand where neck tension and headspacing are tightly controlled by the shooters both routinely and with an obsession rarely seen.

Is it going to help joe sixpack? Well no, to be honest. Joe doesn’t know enough to get the potential benefit to begin with. Owners of this die will 100% want to keep their brass sorted by number of firings. They’ll know about what spring back is and why it’s important to them and a lot more. They will be the type that can’t deal with unexpected 5’s instead of 0’s or 1’s in the 4th decimal place of a measurement. The right owner for this die is someone very much like me in the respect that they are prone to setting up narrowly defined experiments and to analyze the statistical data that results before forming opinions. They’re nerds.

For Coach and I the benefit is being able to share ammo and ballistics data in a match, not running out of time anymore on match stages due to bolt cycling problems, not overworking or insufficiently sizing the brass and being able to make subtle adjustments with truly minimal effort as precisely as adjusting a tactical rifle scope.

I Want To Compete But …

But what? But it’s expensive? But you don’t know how? But is an excuse and just as with bungholes, everyone’s got one and they all stink. You want to compete? Do you just want somewhere to shoot that’s not off a bench and competing is about the only way you can do that? It’s really an easy 10 point plan to success that you need. The only assumption it makes is that you MAY have budget concerns.

Here’s how:

If you want to be competitive at the local level then:
1. Start reloading or you’re wasting your money hand over fist.
2. Pick a 6.5mm-7.5mm rifle cartridge that puts heavy for caliber bullets out at 2600fps or better. That’s good to 1000+yrds.
3. Pick up a scope that tracks (see my posts in topics about glass for good ideas about which are up to it on a budget).
4. Find a .75MOA or better load.
5. Learn to shoot / get a mentor / get trained.
6. Get your ballistics really dialed in (ask me how).
7. Train when you practice. Don’t just rehearse. If you hit every time you’re rehearsing. Make it harder on yourself and you’ll get better.
8. Keep a log book of conditions and POI vs POA data. You’ll want to thank me later for you starting to do that.
9. Get off your belly and on your feet. When you can hit standing, you can hit from any position.
10. Have fun. It’s not worth it if it’s just work.

Now to your silly arguments.
1. I don’t know how.
Not knowing how is an excuse. It’s easier to learn than baking.
2. Why not 6mm or 5.56 or 8mm or …:
Because barrel life/cost/recoil are optimized in .264, .277, .284 and .308 bores.
3. Those are expensive.
No, they’re not. Check SWFA SS fixed 12x or 10x.
4. Don’t you mean .5MOA or better?
No. I mean .75 or better.
5. Who?
Well, I do do that sort of thing so you could ask me or Google is an option.
6. This is where the metal meets the meat. You will probably do this wrong.
Ask BallisticXLR for help.
7. Excuses are like… yeah.
I’ve never been called an excuse but I have been called an asshole.
8. I don’t have the patience or focus.
Then you don’t have the data next time you need it. No biggie.
9. It’s too hard/I’m not good enough/I’ll just miss.
Exercise your upper middle back muscles and this gets easy. Watch my videos on Silhouette shooting for stance and hold.
10. Don’t tell me what to do.
It was just a suggestion.

LiTLR Leage Official Rules

The Offical LiTLR League rules are:

  • Firearms Permitted:
    • All firearms used must legally be defined as handguns or SBR’s.
      • 10.5″ maximum barrel length
        • Measured from breech face to end of muzzle device.
      • .30cal minimum bore diameter.
      • .458 cal maximum bore diameter.
      • 1600fps maximum muzzle velocity.
      • 250gn maximum projectile weight.
  • A pistol brace must be affixed to the gun.
    • Folding butt stocks are allowed.
    • Brace may be folded or unfolded unless required to be unfolded for a stage.
  • Gun must have at least one of the following:
    • functional mechanical safety.
    • external hammer.
  • Gun must be able to accept a bipod mounted to the fore end.
    • Some stages will require a bipod to be used.
  • No bags/pillows/pads allowed.
  • Brakes/Suppressors are allowed.
  • 30 seconds per shot.
  • 1 shot per target.
  • Firing at each stage to be done from each of:
    • prone, sitting, kneeling, standing.
  • 10 rounds per stage.
  • Targets are to be:
    • Placed at distances from 100-500m.
    • Life size and shape silhouettes of animals.
    • Zombie silhouettes.
    • Extinct product logos.
    • Punctuation marks scaled to 2.5-3.5MOA.
    • Orange or white clay shotgun targets.
      • Targets are to be placed such that they provide a target width of at least 2 minutes of angle from the stage firing position.
  • Scoring is on targets successfully engaged divided by time taken in seconds in each of the following classes:
    • Semi-Auto Class
    • Bolt Action Class
    • Break Action Class
    • Other/Open Class
  • Overall match winner is the one with the most targets successfully engaged.
    • Tie results in sudden death shoot off with 15 second shot clock.
  • Maximum weapon weight: 5lbs
  • Stage timing is started when a shooter’s foot touches the ground outside of the 2’x2′ starting box.
  • Shooters are not permitted to use shooting jackets, shooting gloves, shooting shoes, slings, vision blocking devices.
  • Shooters may not have any part of their gun mechanically fixed to any prosthetic limb.

Announcing LiTLR League! Competition Shooting Re-Invented.

For years I’ve shot PRS and LTR and F-Class and metallic silhouette competition; among others, and I’ve come away with the idea that you can never really have too many shooting sports. This is because you can never have too many guns. Maybe it’s vice versa. Who cares? I recently saw the thing pictured below and my weenie almost got hard.

I thought, “You know that .460 Rowland I made from a Swedish Mauser? Yeah, that’s perfect for this. I can get 250’s going 1600fps I bet.” I was also thinking about last night when Coach and I pulled out the 9mm CZ 75-B’s we were carrying and instead of shooting the target that was 25 yards away we walked away to closer to 75 yards before shooting because it would have been too close otherwise. Then I thought about using my .460Rowland Swedish Mauser to swat a plate at 800yrds. Then I thought about how Coach and I were lamenting the fact that under 600 yards is simply no fun anymore and under a kilometer is starting to get there but that ranges that long are shockingly few and far between in this country. I started to think about the chaps that only have ranges that go out to 100 or 200 or 300 yards or so and certainly there are a small percentage that get as far out as 500 yards. People just don’t have the room for real long range.

This series will be loaded down with NFA and non-NFA guns. There are plenty of guns we think of as rifles already made as pistols for purposes of legal compliance. Many will elect to make their own. Most will fret a little about NFA compliance. All I can say is, with everyone having one of these at a match, nobody’s going to be able to check them all. That said, you’ll want to comply with all applicable laws for your own sake.

Long range shooting is challenging partly because in order to get the bullet far away you’ve pissed away all that amazing velocity in exchange for the distance. So what we’re really making then are shots and waiting abnormally long for the target to let us know it’s been hit. Ok, so you want to wait to find out that you made the hit but you want to make the shot now and for it to be hard? Simple, bring the target in closer and chop your velocity in half. Same exact thing with 1/4 of the gunpowder being used.

So (drum roll): I’m happy to announce the newest creation from BallisticXLR: “LiTLR League“, the Lilliputian Tactical Long Range League.

The rules are not onerous, the targets are meant to be a bit whimsical, the ranges are insane and the equipment requirements help to make sure that this will never become a contest that races your wallet against someone else’s wallet. No wallet depth is going to make up for doing something that’s inherently darned near impossible.

We start with a “pistol” which was intended by its original designer to be a rifle. So, AR-15 pistols, Remington Chassis Pistols and the like are the stock in trade of this game. Take a Swedish Mauser and equip it with a stock that provides the functionality of an AR-15 pistol brace, cut the barrel down (get your NFA stamp in the process) and set it up for a pistol round.

The basic rules are:

  • 10.5″ maximum barrel length as measured from breech face to end of muzzle device.
  • .30cal minimum bore diameter.
  • .458 cal maximum bore diameter.
  • 1600fps maximum muzzle velocity.
  • 250gn maximum projectile weight.
  • Pistol brace must be affixed to the gun.
  • Folding pistol brace stocks are allowed. Brace may be folded or unfolded unless required to be unfolded for a stage.
  • Gun must have at least either functional safety or an external hammer.
  • Gun must be able to accept an attached bipod (some stages will require a bipod be used).
  • No bags/pillows/pads allowed.
  • Targets are 100-500m.
  • Brakes/Suppressors are allowed.
  • 30 seconds per shot.
  • 1 shot per target.
  • Firing at each stage to be done from each of:
    • prone, kneeling, sitting, standing.
  • 10 rounds per stage.
  • Targets are to be:
    • Life size and shape silhouettes of animals.
    • Zombie silhouettes.
    • Extinct product logos.
    • Punctuation marks.
    • Orange or white clay shotgun targets.
      • Targets are to be placed such that they provide a target width of at least 2 minutes of angle from the stage firing position.
  • Scoring is on targets successfully engaged divided by time taken in each of the following classes:
    • Semi-Auto Class
    • Bolt Action Class
    • Break Action Class
    • Other/Open Class
  • Overall match winner is the one with the most targets successfully engaged.
    • Tie results in sudden death shoot off with 15 second shot clock.
  • Maximum weapon weight: 7lbs
  • Stages timing is started when the shooter’s foot touches the ground outside of the 2’x2′ starting box.
  • Shooters are not permitted to use shooting jackets, shooting gloves, shooting shoes, slings, vision blocking devices, yellow/red/green/blue glasses lenses.
  • Shooters may not have any part of their gun mechanically fixed to any prosthetic limb.

This is the perfect game to take your .300BLK out for a day of fun. Have a Mauser rifle that you converted to fire a pistol cartridge? This is your jam. The goal is to have a weapon that operates very much like a rifle but which has been hobbled by a non-rifle-like chamber. We’re taking what is basically a handgun which most people think of as being useful from 1-5 meters and using it at 100x that distance. Shots will drop quickly through their supersonic velocity and transition into transonic flight and subsonic flight which makes the ballistics less predictable.

Lacking long sight radii and higher velocities associated with longer barrels, it will be on the shooter to be on their game for every shot. Even the littlest deviation in executing on the fundamentals will have a negative impact on your score. The distance and weapon configuration and performance limitations put the shooter into a challenging situation that will show who’s got the skills versus who’s just rocking the dollars.

This series will be a points series with a national winner and prizes (we’ll cover those details later on). Any clubs, individuals or product vendors wanting to get involved in this series or to operate a LiTLR match in your area should contact ballisticxlr@gmail.com to get an application, a media kit, stage maps, official rules, swag and a points form. We’re also currently setting up a website to allow participants to track their status against the rest of the world.

Join the fun!

 

6XC Load Development – Analysis Time

6XC Load Development – Analysis Time


This little case seems to really like being as full as possible and/or run a little hard and put away a little bit wet if you get my meaning. We broke in the barrel with 15 shots but as you can see from the data below, around shot #6 things stabilized. By round 10 I had warmed up the barrel a bit and was vacillating between baking rounds in the chamber while I wiggled around trying to get a natural point of aim and firing quickly when I was already at a good NPoA.

All discussions of load data and charge weights come with the “don’t copy me and hurt yourself” disclaimer. Don’t just run my loads, work up to them. These are all on Norma brass, F210 primers, 115gn DTAC bullets and COAL at 2.8″.

Around shot #6 things pretty well started to stabilize. Inconsistently going between firing quickly and baking rounds in a warm-ish chamber widened the ES a bit around shot 11.

After grinding out the first 15 rounds to break in the bore and establish a zero; this was a BRAND NEW barrel after all, we took a little break and went to check the target. The new barrel shot to such a different POI than the prior barrel that it took quite a few shots just to get on steel at 100yrds. By round 10 we were on steel at what seemed like pretty close to POI=POA. Enough to move to the BoxToBench Precision 100yrd Load Development Target and dialed the zero in on the cold zero aiming point. 5 rounds at the cold zero put us at 15 shots and we were already seeing each set of 2 bullet holes (because: adjust, fire 2, adjust) either touching or very close to it. We’re pretty excited about the performance we’re seeing so far.

After the first 15 shots and letting the gun cool down I settled in to go for groups for record. Starting off we did the Coach’s match load (CML) which is 38.5gn of H4350. Then the RL-23 was run followed by N550 and IMR-4166. To wrap things up we came back to the H4350 and did the 39.5gn load then finished out our paper punching with 5 at 39 grains. After that I had 5 rounds left and wanted to drop a shot on the 900 yard target so we went up there and I rang the gong for 5 rounds of 38.5gn. There’s a called flyer (obvious) on 4 of the 6 aiming points. I wasn’t in the most stable position and I knew it.

 

My velocities are a solid 150fps above what Coach gets from his Enfield rifled barrel of the same length with the same load. Ok, to be completely transparent, it’s not EXACTLY the same load. We do actually seat the bullets about .120 deeper forn my new barrel than Coach’s barrel but I can’t see 150fps difference from that. This is the polygonal rifling in full effect. Less friction because you’re not engraving the bullet, you’re swaging then and then twizzlering them, if only ever so slightly.

So now on to the powder results. H4350 you see the curves change shape as you fill the case up. To my eye it almost looks like someone’s grabbed on to the right side and started pulling the string taut. Group sizes went down as powder charges went up but we’re talking about going from a .75″ group to a .71″ group to a .3″ group. The academic in me is crying out to be let loose with a scale and all of my reloading supplies to do a 1/10th grain at a time experiment. But, that’s expensive and I have other matters to attend to. The experienced rifle shooter in me says, “You do realize that any one of those is sufficient for the 1000yrd stuff you’re doing right?” The competitive rifle shooter in me says, “Take the 39.5 and let’s go home and load ammo before you change your mind again.”

This is Coach’s match load in his current barrel. Featuring a tight 10.87fps standard deviation from my gun and a not disappointing .75″ group this load showed promise. I just don’t want to tune it. In Coach’s gun this load runs 150fps slower, has a 32fps SD and turns in the same .75″ groups.
The group size collapsed on this load down to .4″ until I popped a flyer into it (which I called) that took the final group to .71″. 40fps ES is a bit on the broad side for me out of a 5 shot sample size. I could maybe do half of that. This load does suggest it might want just a little more powder.
When we give it 39.5 grains the dissonant came into harmony and it made a .3″ group with 2fps SD’s and 5fps ES. It’s running mild pressures and making within a gnat’s ass of 3,000 fps where I’d draw the velocity line anyway. 2900-2950 was our target and we’re there with a solid load.

Onward and upward. We still have loads to analyze. Everyone knows that after my experience with it in .243AI and 6.5x55AU that I’m a big fan of Reloader 23. It’s sloooooooow burning and has been returning impressive velocities with reasonable pressures from very heavy for caliber bullets in relatively long bores from very overbore cases… as you would expect it to do if you are at all familiar with Boyle’s Gas Law. We had no idea how much to start with so we did exactly what Coach did with it for my .243AI. We filled the case up to the body:shoulder junction, dumped it out and weighed it and put that much into 5 cases. It came out at 38 grains with no drop tube, just a funnel and a weighing pan.

Reloader 23 showed me with my .243AI that it likes a full case (I’m sensing a trend here with these slow burning magnum powders) and that it’s pretty hard to put enough into a 6mm case based on a .473 case head to blow the damned thing up if you’re seating to SAAMI/CIP lengths. 38 grains produced pretty nice velocity. A testament to the efficiency of the 6XC case setup. Still with 28fps SD’s, 66fps ES and a .68″ group of 5, it would “do” but I’d want to develop it more if I were to use it. We did find that RL-23 is a great option. Somewhere around 40 grains should give high 2900’s at reasonable pressures even when seating bullets deepish.

                                That right there is porn star sloppy.

Pressing on, we have N550. A double base NG/NC powder known for being a little temperature touchy after 90F and for being pretty darned expensive. 36.5 grains of N550 gave us a nice narrow 11.95fps SD’s on ES’s of only 29fps. Still a little tall but velocities were touching 2900 and pressures were VERY low. It also grouped a .2″ group of 5 shots. Oh man am I tempted to increase my powder budget by 25%. We figure we could fill the case on this stuff somewhere around 39 grains at 3,000fps. But, I don’t want to develop a load; much less an expensive one, if one jumps out at me and that H4350 load at 39.5 grains is hard to beat even with stupid tight groups.

             A lot of promise in this one. Super stable velocity potential.

Now we cross into “Coach style load” territory. So far we’ve been on the very slow side of the slow side of the rifle powder spectrum. Now we’re going to cross the street where the Beatles fans turn into Stones fans and start dragging their knuckles. Not really. Just making fun of coach. The defining line between a “Me” style and a “Coach” style of handload is I like my powder to burn all the way down the barrel giving consistent pressure all the way without a huge spike of pressure in the case itself. My way is easier on brass but harder on barrel throats because there’s more grit coming out of the case neck this way. Coach likes his pressure to form in the case, for all the combustion events to happen in that space and then to use the built up pressure. He also tends to jam bullets rather than jump them where I jump them at least a little bit normally.

Making a Coach style recipe means you know you’ll see pressure sooner or later in your experimenting. That being the case and the fact that there was no data for IMR-4166 (which is around Varget/IMR-4895 burn speed) we elected to hot-foot bloody educated guess it. I calculated that 37.5 grains was about the most we’d want to try and so we tried that. It came back hot enough to imprint my ejector hole on the brass so that’s at least 1 full grain too much juice. It did however make 3080fps with a 2fps SD and a 6fps ES for 5 rounds. Drop a grain or two and you’re right up around 2950-3000fps. What a smoker though! Too bad the pressures were simply too high.

      If it wasn’t running north of 70,000psi This would be my new load.

Below you can see the velocities as they came out of the gun during testing.  You can see it took about 5 rounds to season the bore and then it’s pretty much standard load development wavy gravy until you get to 2 very specific sections whose extreme flatness gives away that something very cool happened there and needed to be paid attention to.

So while N550 turned in the best group and ok SD’s, the extremely tight SD’s and the super tight group out of the 39.5gn load of H4350 has won the day. I might mess with bullet jump a little but really, I’m happy. Best not to waste barrel life.

On the topic of barrel life. Common wisdom is somewhere north of 1500 rounds but under 2000 before it’s smoked. Well that’s about a year and a half or 2 worth of life. That’s from a conventional Enfield rifled gun. I run Columbia River Arms polygonally rifled barrels which have been giving me very long barrel life and I used only HBN coated bullets for the last 1000 rounds (it’s at north of 1300 rounds now).

                     6XC Dimensions

My .243AI still runs like a laser. I only took it off because seating depth was longer than my magazine, but there’s plenty of bullet still in the case yet. I could take it another 500+ rounds if I was willing to single feed. Pushing 115’s at 3200 can’t have been gentle on it and the expectation was that by 1000 rounds it was going to look like 5 miles of rough road down the bore but it’s not. It’s smooth as glass still and makes tiny 1000 yard groups. So if we take this barrel life thing to mean the point at which the boat tail is up inside the neck of a loaded case when seated equals cooked, my .243AI will have gotten something like 2000 rounds before its death. Thanks to some combination of the HBN coating and the polygonal rifling.

Well then, I expect something like 4,000 rounds of life from my 6XC and something like 6,000 rounds from Coach’s since we’re giving his the Modern Sparts Systems Accuracy Oil treatment for its whole life. If I pull 4,000 rounds out of this barrel I’ll be surprised as hell. 3,000 rounds wouldn’t go amiss though and would be well representative of my real expectations.

How will it all turn out? Stay tuned to find out.

 

 

 

 

 

 

September 23rd Long Range Precision Rifle Match – Video

I did well. I was on track to be in the top 3 but as it heated up I got a little heat exhausted and started making mistakes and bad shots. No excuses… it was me and I blew it. So, here’s 1 crap stage and 2 great stages. Make sure to like the video and subscribe to my YouTube channel.

After Action Report – April Long Range Precision Rifle Match

I got 3rd place biatches! W00t! In a field of 30 shooters I came in with a solid 3rd place overall as well as for the prone class with the DodgerDog Hot Dog Gun in .243 Ackley Improved. Running 115gn DTAC projectiles with a super high .620 G1 BC at 3180FPS is almost cheating. The winner used a .308Win and 2nd place used a 6.5 Creedmoore but 3rd, 4th and 5th places in prone gun ran 6mm’s at 3,000fps or better with my Ackley being the fastest by at least 100fps.

Coach, JoeV and I started on stage 2 and after the first shot we were starting to get our wind call for the first part of the day nailed down. Coach goose-egged the first stage because of a turret being spun off zero. JoeV and I both crushed it missing 2 and 1 respectively which was pretty good given we were in the “guess the wind” part of the day instead of the bit that comes later… the “know the wind” bit.

Coach brought his wood stocked Savage 110 in 6XC running 115 DTAC’s at 2900. He’s getting consistently better and his scores are trending upward even though he and his rifle aren’t fully friends just yet. Coach’s rifle is shown below on the left. It’s got a Canjar single set trigger (amazing) and a US Optics 3.8-22×44 scope on a 35mm tube and looks pretty plain jane. It is not. Scoring a 21 at the end of the day is really good particularly as he’s still learning to dial DOPE instead of hold it. This is a different game than he’s got 40 years playing.

JoeV brought his 6.5CM chambered Weatherby Vanguard in a custom bedded tactical style stock wearing an SWFA 10×42 optic with Harris 6-9″ S-type bipod and AAC brake. The gun itself doesn’t stand out as anything other than how to spend money the most wisely if performance per dollar spent is the measure. Joe’s pretty humble about his rifle and I think he wishes it was flashier but it’s a friggen laser beam and he’s a ninja with it. One of these days I’m going to trade him guns for a match and see how we each do. Joe’s won the match before with my .243AI so I don’t doubt he could do it again. Damn! The Marines really train their riflemen don’t they!

So… Stage 3 we did well. Stage 4 we did exceedingly well. Stage 5 we did well. You see how this is going. It was a great day with great weather until the wind picked up in the back half of the day. We had a good time hanging out and shooting and when it was all said and done we’d done very well as a team.

Have some video fun! I guess we didn’t get stage 4. Sigh. We always miss one.

 

Progression of Project Rolling Stone – Mossberg MVP .223

When I picked it up, I got it only because it could take my 20 & 30 round AR-15 magazines and I was in to squirrel shooting and preparing a trip to Cedarville, CA for their annual Squirrel Wars event. I was going to not spend all day loading mags this time and didn’t want to use an AR-15 again. Bolt action seemed better.

I ran over to my closest Big5 Sporting Goods and they had one on the rack with a $50 off sale price. So I snagged that right up. It was a 24″ varmint model and I was happy as a clam, for about 2 days. Within those 2 days I pulled it apart and found it was bedded with plastic, the stock leaned to the right down the barrel channel and action screw torque was unrepeatable. Fine. It’ll shoot. Right?

Iteration 1. Bushnell ET-1040 Mil/Mil and a Harris 6-9″ Swivel bipod w/ podlock.

Well, I tossed on a Bushnell 10x40mm optic, some Burris Signature Series 1″ rings and a bipod and went to the range with some steel cased russian 55gn FMJ. The gun printed nothing inside 1.5″ at 100yrds. Ok, let’s start replacing parts. That’s always the right thing to do. Right? Using better ammo wouldn’t help, obviously. That said, I did start some handloads for it and found it had certain proclivities toward heavy weight bullets and being pushed to primer popping pressures.

Round 2. FIGHT!

So, I found out the Bushnell optic was not tracking consistently. While it was back at Bushnell being replaced (This is a common theme with the 10×40’s. Of 4 of them I’d bought, 3 needed RMA’d) I added a 16×42 fixed power SWFA SS optic and 30mm Burris Signature Series rings. I took that out squirrel shooting and was not impressed. Accuracy with 40-55gn ammo was horrid. With heavier stuff it started performing though. So, change of plans. It’s not a squirrel gun anymore. It’s a match rifle. See, I’d just gotten into a regular local prone long range precision match and needed something inexpensive to shoot there. Well, one trip in and that factory stock was shit-canned. Replaced with an MDT LSS chassis, DPMS PSG-1 pistol grip and a Magpul MOE buttstock. That did really well and I managed to turn in the 2nd highest score ever with a .223 at my regular long range match. That still stands. I haven’t bested it to date.

US Optics Scopes, MDT LSS chassis and Burris Signature Series rings on Project Rolling Stone (5.56) and Project Gabriel (7.62)

Not too much time passed and I came into a big bonus so I wanted a major optics upgrade. A quick call to US Optics and I had 2x ST-10’s on the way for various rifles. Epic scopes. Simply wonderful. I took that out with my spotter/best friend, The Disco Tripper, and we turned in some groups on steel. Man that combo could shoot. Running 70gn Berger VLD’s and 75gn Hornady BTHP it was an easy gun to hit long range steel with. I mostly kept those ST-10’s on my bigger guns and used the 16x SWFA optics though. They’re a lot harder to use than an ST-10 but I wanted the extra magnification for the aim-small-miss-small thing.

650m results from Project Rolling Stone

Once we got to this point my coach started harassing me about trying a bedding job on the chassis. So we grabbed some epoxy and fully bedded the recoil lug and skim bedded the action. I also added a MOE cheek riser to the butt. Instant improvement came from the bedding in that no more flyers plagued me. That settled her ass down nicely and I shot quite a few matches as well as a bunch of informal plinking sessions with the gun. The cheek riser had the rifle as comfortable as if it were injection molded around me. I’ve not yet gotten the rifle in its current form to fit quite that nicely, mostly due to time.

The day I set the 2nd place .223 record, setting up for a 900 yard shot, which I hit. Waiting for my spotter to figure out a set of binoculars.

I have been able to shoot the living piss out of it regardless of whatever else is going on because it’s a .223 and very inexpensive to load for. That’s been a saving grace with this project.

Up on The Grassy Knoll. Stage 2 at Avenal. About to start missing.

It was about the time that my barrel was starting to really age that I also decided to upgrade basically all of my scopes. I started with some more US Optics in the form of an ER-25 for my .308. Not the best choice. It worked great on the big 7mm Remington Magnum (below far left) but not so much on the .308. It was also just too damned big for my safe. No rifle fit in there with the ER-25 on it so I had to bounce that optic and began a long journey of horse trading to end up with what I have now which is more US Optics but these fit in my safe and you’ll see them further down in this article. One thing I was really trying to nail down was parts commonality so I could take parts off of one and put them on another if the occasion arose that it was necessary. My mindset was really into TEOTWAWKI at the time. I’m in a better place now that President Daddy is in the White House.

Some of MeccaStreisand’s long range rifles. 7mag, 7mag, .308, .223, .223

It wasn’t too long after I’d bounced the larger US Optics ER-25 and an ST-10 in favor of a set of Vortex Razor 2 HD’s. One in 3-18×50 and the other in 4.5-27×56. They are excellent scopes but I hate hate hate pinch screws on turret knobs for exactly the reason that I bounced those Vortex optics. They loosen enough to not adjust when you twist em’ but they still click and it happened multiple times on both turrets of both scopes. Plus they’re heavy as all get out and the 3-18x on the MVP was in MOA because that’s what I could get at the time. All combined I just was not happy. So, I looked around and looked around and finally after almost a year found a US Optics B-17 I could sell the 3-18x Razor and buy. Excellent choice. I guess I’m just a US Optics guy.

I ditched the factory trigger early on and got myself a Jard and a Timney. The Timney spends most time on the rifle. The Jard is special purpose and breaks at just ounces. It’s not a safe trigger for most use cases but it’s brilliant when I’m trying to hit chicken eggs at 500m. The Timney doesn’t have that annoying blade in the middle of it but otherwise is set about the same, 2.5lbs.

All in the family. Upgrades coming rifle by rifle, step by step.

The first Razor 2 to go away was the 4.5-27x Razor II because I had a buyer for it and something on the line to replace it with. I sold it and had enough money left to buy a used US Optics SN3 3.8-22×44 ERGO on a 35mm tube in MOA with a really slick Dragunov style reticle that heavily uses chevrons. It’s a battle ready optic for sure. My coach decided to get into long range prone though and needed a scope so that went on his gun. Now I needed another. Begin the long look for just the right swap.

Black Hole Weapons barrel. Wrong thread patten but that’s a simple fix.

I shot Project Rolling Stone in variations of one form for a good long time. Long enough to burn out the barrel. Truth be told I’d more or less killed that barrel the week I got the gun. I had a bunch of steel cased Russian bulk ammo with bullets that were copper washed steel and started the gun on those. That must have eaten half the barrel life. By the time I’d had around 3K rounds out of it (IIRC, it’s been a while) that barrel just wouldn’t reliably hold the match level accuracy I needed. It was fine for a sportsman, and I gave that barrel away to a sportsman later on, but not for a match long range precision gun. Thing is, only 1 outfit had reportedly made any small ring MVP barrels and they made them shouldered instead of barrel-nutted. I also wanted a particular barrel maker’s barrel. Black Hole Weaponry. Why? Well, their pipes are just too easy to deal with, shoot excellently, clean easily, are inexpensive, stainless and come threaded at no extra charge.

Once I got that barrel situation settled then I wanted to do a little something with the finish. So I got the idea to make it look like a Sonoran coral snake. 3 months of beating on my local Cerakote guy and getting nothing but excuses later I finally got it back, literally hot from the oven and the scale pattern was backward. Fuck! Well, such is life. Only dorks and herpetologists ever notice. What everyone notices is he didn’t finish the last 4 inches of the pipe. Dick! I eventually got it back and had my 26″ pipe at 1:7 twist in Caudle 3-groove polygonal rifled 416R stainless steel. I bought a bunch of 73gn ELD-M projectiles and a ton of new PPU brass and have been swatting steel on the regular with it since.

Sonoran Coral Snake Cerakote

It was such a hassle dealing with the Cerakote guy that I did my .308 barrel with rattle can spray paint and it actually turned out pretty cool despite me not having much experience with this sort of thing. I used the mesh plastic thingy they send barrels in to make the scale pattern and 3 colors of paint with blue painters tape.

.308 barrel with Texas Coral Snake pattern by Krylon and me.

Then at some point one of the guys at Primary Arms and another guy from Accuracy Solutions were both interested in how their assorted products would do at my monthly long range prone match. Being a good sport and a bit curious, I set out to find out. I added a Primary Arms 4-14x FFP ACSS HUD/DMR optic and an Accuracy Solutions BipodEXT to the gun. I also switched out the Magpul MOE based butt section for an XLR Industries Tactical stock to gain full adjustability which I wanted for various reasons but mostly because I needed a proper cheek weld with the PA optic on there. The Primary Arms scope works beautifully if you trust and use the BDC reticle and did not do well at all when using the mil dots and calculating. The BipodEXT was brilliant. It put the axis of rotation in 2 dimensions in front of the muzzle which increased the lever length enough to make it like shooting from a machine rest. All wiggle was gone!

The Snake Gun equipped with BipodEXT and Primary Arms 4-14x FFP ACSS.

Having finished with testing stuff I didn’t want to use long term and written the appropriate articles, I went back to perfecting the combo and slapped a US Optics B-17 on top. To finish the whole thing I bounced my usual Harris 6-9″ swivel type bipod and put a new AccuTac BR5 into my kit. That’s a beast of a bipod.

Project Rolling Stone in its current form.

I get a lot of strange looks and a lot of people stopping by to make comments from snide to supportive about the rifle and all my rifles for that matter. It’s my toy and I’ll play with it how I like to so I don’t mind when they get snide or chiding. All my match guns are meant to elicit a visceral response. Partly that’s to destabilize my co-competitors mentally so I have a better chance of them doing shitty. Part of it is just for conversation starting. Part of it is, I like these rifles and I like to make them look how I like them to look. I betcha you’ll never find another coral snake gun or another hot dog gun but everyone and their sister has a Hello Kitty AR-15 or a scale pattern on the entirety of their AR-15 or shark teeth, etc… Just because they’re unoriginal repeating pieces of camel poo doesn’t mean I have to be unoriginal.

Project Gabriel in its current form which I call “The Hot Dog Gun”

If you do the math, this gun has cost me a pure fortune. $600 for the base gun, $750 in various stock parts, $5500 in various optics, $40o-ish on triggers, $300 on barrels, $300 on rings and mounts, $10 in muzzle devices (A2 birdcage) and $100 in Cerakote and spray paint. So there you go. I’m about $8,000 in if I’d had to buy each piece at full price. Thankfully, I did a lot of swapping this for that and either reselling or directly trading most of the time so my actual spend on the gun as it sits is closer to $2500US in real money spent.

That said, for $2500 I’ve got a .223 that will easily swat a bad guy or a critter to well beyond the effective range of the bullet it shoots and shoots well under .75MOA. It’s got the best parts on the aftermarket on it without resorting to blatantly overly expensive bits that are just more expensive without being any better. I know a lot of folks with $2500 in an AR-15 that couldn’t shoot a 3/4MOA group to save their skin. I’m pretty happy with what I have here.

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