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Vortex Razor HD Gen II 4.5-27x56mm and 3-18x50mm

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Talk about a home run. Vortex really nailed it with these. The package comes with a 4″ sunshade and tools all in fitted foam and a nice looking if understated box. The scope itself caught me off guard in a number of ways.

First, the price. Given the full feature set: Japanese made bona fide’s, amazing glass, locking turrets, illumination, zero stop, etc… and the perfection that they’ve all been implemented with the price is easily 1000 bucks under many contenders. How they’re able to do that I don’t know but I’m going to assume that they’re making up on margins with volume. From the ratio of Razor’s to competitive scopes I see at matches I’m going to venture to guess that such a strategy is at least a component of the resultant low price.

I was actually at a match when I bought my first Razor II, a 3-18x50mm. Another competitor had some of his scopes on the swap-meet table at the match and I bellied up to the bar and took a peek. His Vortex Viper PST’s were not really interesting to me but the Razor, that was an attention grabber. They’re so popular with so many top shooters that I couldn’t help but covet it a bit.

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Apart from the substantial heft (more on that later) the entire thing impressed me. Optically it was brilliant, the reticle design was great, turret feel and features were exactly what I’ve always thought of as perfect. The owner told me he got the 3-18x because no 4.5-27x’s were available at the time and he had matches to shoot. Once he got his 4.5-27x there was no need for the 3-18x and so I got it for a song.

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As soon as I had one, I started to look at my US Optics scopes and considered how much more modern and comparatively well executed the Razors are and decided to move to Razor II’s for some of my match rifles. So, I went out and swapped my ER-25 from USO for a 4.5-27×56 Razor II and some accessories. It immediately fixed the balance issues I had from the ultra long ER-25 as the Razor is much much shorter in length. The rifle feels a lot better for positional shooting now and there’s no tunneling or vignetting like with the USO variables I’d had on top.

The heft is substantial. No joke but, also not unexpected with a top shelf optic. A 4.5-27x is right over 3lbs once you slap rings on it. The weight is excitingly evenly distributed along the length giving a nicely balanced feel to the thing. Not having the weight biased helps with rifle balance on my guns with their long heavy barrels. The mass of the optic helps shift that weight bias of the weapon system back toward the rear.

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Turrets are locking .1mrad with zero stops. Clicks are extremely positive but not difficult and there’s no accidentally landing between clicks. It’s in one notch or the other. The zero stop and re-settable turrets are fairly easy to deal with and allows for a little dial-under below your zero which is nice. The parallax knob is well placed, well sized and has just the right amount of resistance with an amazingly close minimum setting. The illumination control being housed inside the parallax knob helps to keep the package compact and doesn’t interfere with bolt handles like a lot of ocular bell mounted illumination controls. The illumination rheostat has off positions between every lit position meaning you don’t have to spin a bunch on the knob to turn it off.

The reticle is the christmas tree style EBR-2C reticle in MRAD. The hole in the center of the reticle is great and doesn’t obscure small targets. I have been loathe to accept the new tree reticles that have taken over the world but after getting into long range shooting that isn’t done from the prone position and where there are multiple shots and time limits that it’s actually super helpful especially when there’s variable wind in the mix.

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All in all it’s exactly what you’d expect from a tier 1 optic. Amazing glass, flawless implementation of every feature and well thought out ergonomics in a compact package that’s superbly capable of doing what it’s advertised to be able to do. A rarity in optics.

I did have one problem setting it up that turned out to be my fault and a quick call to their support line had the instructions I needed to verify a diagnosis and to take corrective action.

 

Making DOPE With BallisticPRS

I was recently asked to create a Density Altitude version of BallisticXLR for those that like DA over absolute air density. Ok, fine. Done. It took quite a number of hours to port it over but it’s there now and it works. This new system is meant for shooters that need extremely rapid ballistics data that is easy to read under time pressure and that can deal with atmospheric changes extremely rapidly.

And here it is!

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The inputs page is a very close match to the original BallisticXLR inputs page but unlike BallisticXLR does not require any atmospheric data inputs. BallisticPRS also differs from BallisticXLR in that it does not have the Primary or Secondary Functions tabs and a number of other tabs that are not relevant for DA applications. It does come with the reloading cost calculator, projectile database, reticle subtend tab, and sniper range cards.

BallisticPRS is meant for the experienced shooter while still being easy enough to use that beginners will not find it stammeringly confusing. As seen below the data tables are noted in meters or yards with data in 10yrd/m increments from 100 to 2490. Data for Drop, Wind, Movers, H-Cor, V-Cor and Spin are listed in a single row making for very fast info uptake.

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There’s an included DA tab (which is experimental) that will allow the user to identify a correct DA with a non-standard temperature and a pressure altitude reading. This handy feature will assist the shooter as temperatures change throughout the day in their FFP.

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This latest product is free for download and; just like with BallisticXLR, I provide free email based support. Just like BallisticXLR, BallisticPRS requires genuine Microsoft Excel for correct function. I’ll be adding a new BADEDS and B-FEDS kit with the DA tables shortly. Because of the much larger page count these kits will be modestly more expensive.

I’m very excited about this new product and I think you will be too!

P.S. – Being that it’s Memorial Day as I post this, I thought I’d leave this here. The price of freedom for some is said to be the blood of patriots and tyrants. It could also be termed the blood of our children and our parents. Dead and living soldiers bought this day off for us.
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Vortex Viper PST 6-24×50 FFP Mil/Mil EBR-1

Normally I review scopes I own or get loaned to me by the manufacturer for the purpose of reviewing. I don’t like to write about those that I don’t have long term access to. I find that the proper way to do things is to get an initial impression and then refine that through longer term use. This is especially true, and largely because of the fact that I end up buying all these optics and that stuff is occasionally heart thumpingly expensive.

Some background on this particular scope review: My coach is an old school shooter and likes his scopes second focal plane with a small dot and fine crosshair reticles with insane magnification levels and 1/8 MOA clicks. These are fantastic for target work at known distances and where you’re not spinning a lot of DOPE each time. His total used adjustment range on the old Nikon was 14MOA and distances were maxed out at 500m. Well, PRS type work gets out a lot further and the targets are scattered randomly in their distances everywhere from 200m to 1000m so you’re constantly dialing up and down and holding off and he needed turrets that were meant to take a little more constant use.

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Well finally, after a year of shooting with me and seeing the things I’m able to do with a scaled reticle in FFP and fixed power scopes and how easy it looks and how good the glass I use is and how well the turrets track (particularly for the price I pay) he decided to make the jump and get a high quality FFP MIL/MIL optic. Part of the reason for the jump was that in prepping for a long range precision match a couple months ago we found out his Nikon target scope was busted and wouldn’t dial any windage and he was way out of elevation for hitting the 900m target. Fast forward to last week and he’d ordered a new Vortex Viper PST FFP 6-24x with EBR-1 reticle.

Now this new Vortex optic is mounted on a 6.5mm BR single shot bolt action Rem 700 based metallic silhouette race gun. The thing is meant exactly for doing 5-10 shots rapid fire at long range… the hard way. Standing up. Using it for PRS style work was actually really successful the first time out despite it being unable to dial wind since it’s nasty accurate, wind bucking and low recoiling. Still, the busted fine hair and small dot Nikon scope was only helping drop his score. This new scope is sure to help his scores in PRS type matches. How it’ll do long term in metallic silhouette has a lot to do with how long it takes him to become friends with his new scope. His skills are wicked sharp anyway so if he takes to it rapidly it could be dramatic. If it isn’t so quick for him to pick up his scores will still rise but not quite as fast.

Anyway, I digress a bit. As soon as the new Vortex Viper arrived he ran over to my place and I popped a set of my 30mm Burris Signature Series rings on the scope with 20MOA of cant dialed with the eccentric inserts. We got it mounted and took to bore sighting at yesterdays match. The scope was within 2MRAD of dead nuts right there. Looks like they’re definitely set up from the factory for a 20MOA mount.

There’s a lot of stuff going on in the EBR-1 reticle compared to his old target dot (but nothing near as much as in the EBR-2 tree style) and in silhouette there’s a saying that every change in weapon/scope/spotter takes a year to overcome. Busy reticles can be hard to deal with when trying to hold 2MOA offhand. Apart from the newness and differentness for my coach, we just slapped a tactical oriented scope on a custom made race gun built specifically for metallic silhouette and not so much for tactical. Just how will this look? Just fine as it turns out. Quite a number of shooters in the silhouette game have gone to SWFA and Vortex optics with scaled reticles. Partly because of price and partly because these sorts of tactical scopes have a reputation for accurate click values so shooters can use computed shooting solutions instead of having to establish actual data on previous engagements (DOPE) in a little notebook. That means less ammo spent verifying data before a match and all the benefits that burning less ammo brings along with some extra time in our pre-match schedules to make sure we’re fed, warm, hydrated, head in the game, etc…

So far it looks like this change didn’t take very long at all for him to deal with. He picked up 3 targets more than he has in the past 4 matches with that rifle with the new scope and we’d only just zero’d it right before the match started. First time behind the new combo and he was making 1″ 3-shot offhand groups at 200m during our pre-match practicing.

In the set-up and zero and practice time I had some time behind his rifle with the newest Viper PST and I gotta say that while there are several design/feature elements that I really don’t dig on, the overall quality and especially the glass was extremely nice. Bright and clear as hell all the way to the edges even on 24x and while there is a bit of a preference for greens and browns in the color rendition it’s everything I’d expect from about 800 bucks.

Yeah, yeah. I can hear you grumbling. Asking yourself, “What the hell is it that he doesn’t like if it’s so great?”

Ok, here’s a list:

5MRAD per turn turrets.
Pinch screw turret cap attachment system.
Visible gap between objective bell and sunshade when so equipped.
Mechanical illumination.
Illumination rheostat location.
Non-intuitive direction of rotation for side parallax and small numbering there.
Side parallax knob is too low profile and not knurled.
Turret labeling and the little window thing on the elevation turret is really busy and can be hard to read quickly.

As you can see. Not a single one of my complaints has anything to do with the ability of the scope to perform reliably or accurately or even exactly as you’d expect. They’re as close to first world problems as you can get but they do affect the speed and ease of use which are important criteria to me.

The thing they got really right: The tactile feel of the clicks. There’s no mistaking that your turning it but they’re not too clakkity that they force the rifle to move when you make an adjustment.

All in all it’s a fantastic scope. I’d hope for 800 bucks they could do a 10mil per rotation turret but beggars can’t be choosers and if that’s the biggest gripe I have for 800 bucks, that’s pretty damned good.

Vortex’s warranty is as bullet proof as any in the industry and they go to great lengths to prove it. Given the quality and performance I could only recommend this if it’s in your budget window and the feature set is appropriate to your game.

US Optics ER-25 Purchase Simulator

For the average Joe that makes an average living, drives an average car, stands average height, average weight and average hair color the superlative experiences in life are much more rare than might be desired. That rarity makes it much more vibrant as an experience but nobody really pays that any mind. They just muddle around with the dream of the rare being more common and that providing more satisfaction. Trust me, this isn’t how the universe works.

Still, buying something like the top of the line 5-25x58mm ER-25 from US Optics is a complete roller coaster of sensation and emotion no matter how many times you do it. Partly it’s just fabulously expensive and partly it’s also just plain fabulous.

First you realize you’ve saved enough money to actually make the purchase. Then you actually commit to it in your own mind and then things get right out of hand.

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This brings about feelings of having arrived which are completely misplaced at this stage of the game; as evidenced by the picture above. They’re also impossible to avoid. People are always keen to get ahead of themselves if at all possible when emotions are involved. Even more so when vast amounts of money are involved as well.

So you’ve made up your mind which is easy enough. Now you make the call and a chap answers the phone that speaks English clearly and seems to care that your specific scope makes you just as happy as it can and he’s there to make sure that that comes to pass. He’s helpful but something nags at you and sometimes you wish you could just say:

Shut up and take my munneeez

However, that’s not how this is done and besides since this is a custom scope there’s a certain amount of jibber jabbering back and forth to be done so all the details can be settled on. Finally after about 15 minutes of chatting and advice taking it’s time for you commit to it with your bank account. He gives you the total price; which reads something like a serial number and can easily drive the air physically from your body, takes your credit card info and lets you know it’s going to be a few weeks before it ships because they have to actually make your scope… it’s not been built yet. You thank the gentleman kindly and ring off. Then it hits you, the exact definition of irrevocable.

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This is one of the very few things in this world that induces in me sensations of caustic chemicals filling my stomach, makes my back get really tight and starts the ringing in my ears off trying to reach a pitch and intensity that would cause barkeepers to ask me to leave for the sake of their stemware. It’s similar to what I imagine it might be like to have a grenade go off very close to you while you’re in the supermarket racking your brain trying to decide between Kraft Macaroni and Cheese and Velveeta Shells and Cheese.

Dropping 3 grand on a car or a boat or a new set of teeth or Lasik is one thing (ok, that’s many things. Don’t distract me.). Any of those things are not likely to make the purchaser sweat quite so nervously waiting for it to arrive. Dropping it on a rifle scope that will only very occasionally see the light of day from outside the confines of my gun safe. Well that’s subtly different. Realizing the wife will see that credit card bill no matter what also produces considerably more hand-wringing. It doesn’t matter if she knew beforehand. It’ll still come up.

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Now you start the wait. If you’re like me you’ll browse the for sale sections of forums in an attempt to make it completely clear to yourself that you could have gotten something just as good used and saved a thousand bucks. You do this just to torment yourself because you were very clear with yourself at the outset that you wanted the custom US Optics scope built just for you and not sloppy seconds on a not-US Optics, not custom made just for you, not new scope. No dammit. That’s not what you’re going to do. You made this perfectly clear to yourself. NO USED SCOPES. NOT THIS TIME.

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The next few weeks are filled with:

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and

Anticipation

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Finally after weeks of waiting you reach the point where you forget for about 30-40 seconds that the scope should be there within days. This respite does much to revive your spirits but is very short lived. Still, after a few more days and taking a day off work to wait for FedEx to arrive; because no way in hell are you leaving three grand worth of scope laying on your bloody doorstep for half the day, the day does finally arrive.

After dark; just to make it worse, the FedEx truck arrives. You normally get off work at 4:40 and arrive home by 5pm and so you nearly have a heart attack waiting for it but when the truck grumbles to a halt 5 houses up you walk outside anyway just in case. He runs a package up to your neighbors house and then soul crushingly returns to his truck. You dutifully return to your house to engage in more hand wringing. Just as you’ve given up hope entirely he jumps back out of the truck but you can’t see because you went back inside. While you’re inside sulking he walks your package casually back to your house sets it quietly on the porch and skulks away around the corner with the stealth of a ninja to get a signature from your wife who has; unbeknownst to you, just pulled into the driveway.

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Your wife walks in, sets the package on the floor in the entryway and greets you. You in your turn completely ignore her and dive into that package on the floor like Scrooge McDuck in his money bin. If you could actually jump inside the box you would but physics gets in the way; again, and you sate yourself by pulling that bad boy out of the box and cuddling with it for a while.

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I’m currently sitting at the having ordered phase and the tightness in the chest is pretty severe right now. It’ll pass like always. Eventually. Probably just after I mount my new scope to my old rifle. Hmmm…. old rifle. Might have to do something about that.

Timney 610-S Trigger For Mossberg MVP

I use my Mossberg MVP Varmint in long range precision rifle competition and have been bothered since day one by the factory trigger. The blade in the middle pretending to be a 2-stage is a problem with consistent feel and the factory adjust-ability is only from 3lbs-ish to hellish. If you want a 2lbs or even 1lbs trigger pull you’re boned. The factory bang switch is a decent trigger for most purposes but if you’re doing real work you need a trigger meant for more serious work. If a single stage trigger meets your mission criteria, the Timney offering is pretty fantastic.

Features:
Self-contained drop in trigger.
CNC Machined aluminum housing with Wire EDM cut & Heat treated steel trigger and sear.
Two position, trigger blocking side safety.
Fully adjustable Sear Engagement and pull weight from 1.5-4lbs.
Available in blue (black) and Nickel Plated.
Teflon nickel coated Sear to guarantee a lifetime of service.

Timney 610-S Fits Howa 1500 short action, Mossberg 100 ATR and Mossberg MVP short action.

Timney 610-S Fits Howa 1500 short action, Mossberg 100 ATR and Mossberg MVP short action.

Installation was mostly a snap. The screw provided didn’t want to thread into the receiver so I used the screw from the factory trigger which works just fine. When you install the trigger you should use some loctite on the threads and don’t forget to transfer the washer from the factory trigger to the Timney. In addition to the screw issue you’ll find that the factory trigger has a lake of oil under it. You’ll want to clean that off before attaching the Timney. In fact the Mossberg MVP comes with lakes of oil under everything that’s screwed onto the receiver… scope bases, trigger and all. Total time to install is just about 1 minute. It’s really exceptionally simple.

Pull weight adjustment is simple, allen head on the front of the trigger housing. Each revolution was about 1lbs of pull weight. Sear engagement is set at the factory to be pretty crisp. If you decide to adjust it do so really slowly and understand you’re probably adjusting the wrong thing. The sear engagement screw is at the rear of the trigger housing. The trigger has a good bit of overtravel but zero creep and no take-up.

Enter the Dragon: US Optics ER-25 5-25x58mm

US Optics ER-25 5-25x58mm

US Optics ER-25 5-25x58mm

I’ve tossed down the large pallet load of money it takes to add one of these fine optics to the stable. It’ll be a number of weeks before it’s delivered but it’s definitely coming. The ER-25 is the most powerful and most costly of the USO line at this time. If you need to shoot a mile or you’re doing F-Class or shooting at distance for groups you’d be on an impossible mission to find anything much better. There are few things even remotely as good.

The specs for mine are:
MPR Reticle, black anodized, red illumination, #3 windage knob, EREK elevation knob, no bubble level.

It’s going on one of my 7mag’s for the time being but may do service on other rifles if the need arises for a 2.5lbs 25x scope. Now, off to order rings. For rings I’ll be using Burris Signature Series XTR 34mm. They use the same polymer eccentric system as their 1″ and 30mm Signature Series Zee rings.

This is the kind of scope you only need to buy once in your lifetime because it’ll last that long. When you put real serious money into your kit it holds a lot of its value and provides the kind of performance you’re promised because that’s what you’re paying for. Instead of half-heartedly implemented features on the cheap, US Optics perfectly implements features and that costs but what you get for your money is so much better than cheap stuff. It’s worth the trouble to save up for years if you have to.

Stay tuned for pics, video and honeymoon slide show.

Building A Remington 700 Precision Rifle On A Budget

I see this question all the time and I see silly responses like the one below just as often.


Shooters are constantly asking about which 700 to buy and about which model.
Once they get it the first thing they do is start swapping out parts.
Here is a different approach you can take.
Buy a short or long action ready to go from one of the big supply houses for less than $500.
Buy a take off barrel off of E-Bay in the caliber of your choice for $50 and make sure it comes with the recoil lug.
Pick out the chassis or stock of your choice which will run $50 to $2000
Have the barrel installed by any gunsmith done and done.


Tada. How awesomely wrong can one person be? So you’re going to slap a take-off barrel on a never assembled gun, slap some random stock on it, pay no attention to the integration or parts grade and expect what? I know what to expect, a rebuilt Remmy which is unlikely to print as good as a factory Remmy but which costs at least twice as much. Ugggh. Why not just get a box stock ADL and NOT MODIFY IT. It’ll perform at MOA or better in all probability and if they’re not building a combat rig then it doesn’t have to be dead nuts tough.

How about this gem:


Usually about $3,000 is about right for an R700 unless you are okay with crap and cheap Chinese components. Then, you generally want to start at $1,000 price range in scopes. So, about $4,000 is the minimum budget for a completed scoped bolt action rifle. Then, you will have something you can be happy with and it will last. If you pay much less, you’ll end up paying a lot more in the long run if you are serious.


Yep. Equally up their own ass with their own nonsense. There is no requirement for dropping even 3000 bucks on a Remington 700 before it’s a proper precision rifle. This whole line of thinking is in direct refutation of observable reality and it’s based on the singularly restricted thinking of someone that doesn’t think targets closer than 2Km is worth shooting at. (The above quotes are sourced from Calguns.net and the poster for the 2nd bit actually has “shooting starts at 2000 yards” in his sig line)

The reality of the situation is, just like with every damned thing else, it depends. Let’s assume you’re not building a war rig but you do plan on being pretty rough and tumble with your product so you want some toughness. You start with a used Remington 700. It doesn’t matter which one but an ADL will be the least expensive and can be had for 300-350 bucks no problem and it comes with a trigger and a stock and a barrel and a recoil lug. Add a scope and bipod and you’re there. It’s unlikely that the result will print .2″ 5 shot groups but it’ll probably do an inch or thereabouts. So 350 + 300 (SWFA 10×42 SS) + 100 (Harris S-type bipod) = $750. This is a 800yrd rig against 2-minute of angle targets.

Ok, you want to come down from an inch. Simple, adjust your trigger and replace the barrel and recoil lug and bed the stock. You can do a lot with a pre-chambered drop in barrel. Change caliber, change parent case, do whatever. Add 50 bucks to your buy-in for a recoil lug and 300 bucks for a Black Hole Weaponry Remage barrel chambered in whatever you want. You’re up to 700 bucks now on the base rifle. You know what 700 bucks gets you for a base rifle these days? It’ll get you a factory heavy barrel from Remington or Savage that’ll print .7″ groups in all probability with decent ammo. So, there’s no need to build a rifle. It costs about the same to build one (usually more) than it costs to just buy one. We’re at 700 + 300 + 100 = $1100. This is a 1000yrd rig against 2MOA targets.

Now you want to move from .7″ to .5″ or less. Well now we have a problem. You’re going to need a gunsmith. Your action needs trued, your barrel needs lapped (probably), your trigger needs work, you’re going to probably need help and if you don’t want it you still probably need it. Here’s where building yourself can work but it’s not common unless you already know the answer to the question I’m addressing. Blueprinting and truing an action is going to run 2-3 hundred bucks as a start. Add in a trigger job and a bedding job and precisely setting the headspace to minimum and you can see a $600 gunsmith bill and you still may need a replacement match grade barrel which is going to add 350 bucks for the barrel and probably (unless you do a Remage prefit) 150-200 bucks for the chambering and installation. This is at 350 (action) + 350 (barrel) + $600 (gunsmithing) + 300 (scope) + 100 (bipod). This rig is good for 1000m against 1MOA targets and will probably be easily capable of .5″ groups.

So far these have all be using SWFA 10×42 SS scopes. You can add 500 bucks more for one of their HD 10×42’s which has better glass or add 1200 more bucks and get into a US Optics ST-10 TPAL. All of these are also using a factory stock. There’s no legitimacy to thinking a factory wood stock from Remington can’t be on a precision rifle. You don’t need a chassis stock costing 700 bucks. If you want one fine but don’t think it’s necessary. They’re very nice and ergonomic and that’s it. So you could add 1200-2200 bucks more to any of these levels if you want. It just probably won’t do any good.

Now you want to go to the next level. Well here the cost is pretty well fixed. You’re going to ditch the factory Remington 700 action and probably do an aftermarket clone from Surgeon or similar. The amount of gunsmith time goes up dramatically and the accessories go up dramatically in price. At this point it’s really best to call up GA Precision or Mark Pharr or Beanfield Rifles or any of a thousand others and have them build you a proper rifle on a match action. You’re looking at 3000-7000 bucks and it’ll come with a stock and it’ll likely print .2″ groups all day. Add a scope that’s up to the level of the rifle for another 1000-7000 bucks including rings and mounts. This rifle will be able to be competitive at extended range in matches that count group size or X’s. If you were to build a war rig this is probably where you’d want to be playing. You don’t go to war with toys. You go to war with weapons. When you call it a weapon it’s got to be able to be a weapon no matter what. I’d expect to be able to beat someone to death with it and then turn around and finish my 5-shot group. Going to war means life is on the line. Price is irrelevant when life is the prize so I’ll take the most expensive, custom, ruggedized, perfected kit I can manage to get into. Ask any military sniper if they’d like to take a Savage 10FP or a GA Precision Hospitaller to battle. Ask them if they’d rather take a SWFA 5-20x50HD or a US Optics LR-17.

What $2800 gets you.

What $2800 gets you. This rifle is based on a Savage 10FP-SR


People that think like blankets are not thinking. They’re applying topically accurate information to an off topic matter. One of my match rifles started with a $650 rifle, added a $500 chassis stock, a $300 scope and $200 of rings, mounts, bipod and paint.

This is a 1700 dollar rifle and it’s a 1000m (1100yrds) stone cold killer on 1MOA targets.

What ~$1700 gets you.

What ~$1700 gets you. The base rifle is a Mossberg MVP Varmint .223.


Another of my rifles starts with a $900 base rifle, adds a $350 barrel, $200 chassis stock, $600 in gunsmith work, $1500 scope, and 200 bucks in rings, mounts, bipod and paint. This is a $3500 rifle and it’ll shoot 1MOA targets out to a mile (1760yrds).
What $3500 gets you.

What $3500 gets you. The rifle action is a Winchester post-64.


This is my metallic silhouette race gun. It’s a Savage 110 action ($450) that’s been fully blueprinted ($600), professionally hand glass bedded ($250) into a Nesika Bay stock ($600) using a custom triggerguard ($100) with a Shilen Match stainless barrel ($350), custom ground recoil lug ($100), custom chamber dimensions and headspacing ($350), trigger job ($100), a Weaver T24 scope ($500), and weight set to maximum for Hunter gun class in metallic silhouette competition. The total or a rig like this is about $3500 all in and there’s almost nothing to it. It’s a single shot rifle in a fiberglass stock. Every part of it is not the most expensive option but it’s competitive. I still need to drop another 500 bucks into it for a vastly better trigger and some balancing work. The rifle turns in 1-hole groups at 100m but gets used exclusively from the standing position for any range longer than that. At 200, 300, 385, and 500m it’s accurate enough that I can stand up and take my shots unsupported and have a hope of hitting if my crosshairs are on the target. There are guys that I shoot against that come out with rifles that cost twice as much. They’re not any more accurate, they’re just more exotic with stuff like aluminum actions or Titanium actions with more expensive scopes and more exotic stock paint jobs and more expensive barrels and such. You can double the cost of a rifle really fast and not get anything for it.
$3500 worth of competition rifle.

$3500 worth of competition rifle.


And here’s a GA Precision Hospitaller with a US Optics scope appropriate to the cause. This rig is over $8000 as configured. Probably closer to $9000 when you take everything into account. This is not my rifle. The image is the property of a Photobucket user named reximusallen. I hope he’s ok with me using this pic of his kickass rifle. This rifle will do anything a rifle can do.
What closer to $7000 gets you.

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