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RX17 Live Fire 002: After Action Report

We had a really good weekend in the end but it started pretty rough.

Initial equipment check went well, only a couple of loose screws and everyone’s equipment was definitely of the sort we recommend: Scopes known for solid tracking, rifles with heavy profile barrels, no semi-autos, suppressors in use, good quality rings and bipods, etc… Some guns were factory Savage and Remington others were full or semi-custom. People with pieces of kit that weren’t vetted properly as field ready definitely found out but those were few and far between with one glaring exception.

Optics, optics, optics. You know even the best optics have little niggly problems or complete failures occasionally. That’s manufacturing in the modern age. That makes our recommendations for more affordable optics something we take very seriously. Folks with funding limits that are not orbit level high get legitimately pissed off when we point at something reasonably priced and they buy it and it fails right out of the gate. Same goes for those with more substantial reserves of disposable cash. I’ll omit for now spilling the beans on the details of which scopes failed and/or how they failed with one funny exception because we’re working with the manufacturers to verify the issue sources so they can take any steps necessary without needlessly harming their brand. Often the way a manufacturer finds out about an issue even existing is through feedback and we’re giving it to them constructively.

So, what kinds of failures did we see? Turret tracking consistency issues on high and low end optics that were definitely not due to loose turret caps, over torqued cap screws or other simple issues were the most infuriating. Failure to hold zero was another. Click value discrepancies were another that was more common than last time and I attribute that to the very wide assortment of optics this time around. The first class was extremely heavy with top end IOR Valdada Crusader and Recon models, this time there was everything you could think of on the line. More sample variety means we see more performance variety.

We were able to take care of all of the problems in one way or another. If we could get a good zero we’d shift the shooter to using hold-off aiming instead of dialing which works extremely well within the confines of 1000yrds. For the cases of shifting/wandering zero we simply replaced the optic or the entire weapon system. One failure, on my own Dodger Dog Gun, was particularly frustrating and is pretty funny in hindsight given that I’m the one that checked out my own rifle. One of the little pinch screws that holds the windage turret cap to the center post so clicks register had decided to go walkabout and I didn’t notice. That led to a comedy of errors of sorts.

I did notice that I couldn’t get a zero that was useful. Part of that though was the ammo I tossed together for this was meant for me to use for fireforming the last of my .243win to .243Ackley, not for a student to use. Well, a student needed it and couldn’t get enough of any one kind of ammo at WalMart to do the class meaning they needed what I brought. So, I dutifully loaned it and they complained that it didn’t shoot right. I tried but the best group I could get was over 5 inches at 100yrds. 55 grain Varmageddon pills at 3800fps from an 8 twist barrel I guess was a little much on the spin and they were going everywhere. So, Dodger Dog Gun got pulled back and my brand new US Optics B-17 was the butt of many jokes. I replaced the B-17 with a spare SWFA 16x42mm SS but zeroing was a non-starter since it wouldn’t group. I got home and looked at my B-17 and noticed the missing screw right away, grabbed a spare from my box of spare shit and it’s working fine now. Dammit. Sorry about that Shinobi. I really wanted you to be able to use that gun.

Beyond the equipment issues we really put the psychological, intellectual and physical pressure on for this group of students. The last group did so well that we didn’t think we were challenging people quite enough so we stepped it up just one notch. A little less time and a little more drill complexity and difficulty. We got what we wanted. Students were under just enough pressure that they’d start gradually losing the fundamentals with predictable results and we’d have to re-focus them. It got continuously easier for them to self-diagnose and correct for their glitches though. So it worked. They really internalized things and by the third day when we were in full on testing mode they performed beyond any reasonable expectation. Day 1 was a lot of grinding through bigger form and equipment issues at 100yrds to get their groups tight enough that long range would work. Day 2 refined their form and got them focusing against distractions and using DOPE properly so long range hits were in the 60% zone but most misses were wind call related. Day 3 was super high pressure and despite that hits during the most challenging drills were over 80% with misses being wind calls mostly with a very few form issues which students immediately identified, copped to and corrected. They all went from a mix of confidence on the surface with an unsure center to knowing that they were field viable marksmen (Ok Xena, and markswoman) who didn’t need our help anymore to hit 1000yrds. Them chickadees done left the nest.

These students really expected a lot of themselves and you could totally sense the frustration when they didn’t perform to their expectations right off the bat or even after a good whack of instruction. Folks have to realize, expectations need to be aligned with universal reality. You don’t attend training to show me or you how good you are. You come there for me to show you how much you have to learn that I have to teach and then for me to go ahead and teach you as much of that material as I can as thoroughly as possible in the time available.

I see a lot of folks online saying they need to train before coming to one of our classes. That’s simply insane. You need to get your gear in order, twist your expectations knob to “don’t know shit but ready to learn” and come to a course and watch your skill set bloom. We’ll teach you to shoot groups if you need to learn that. We’ll teach you trigger control if you need to learn that. We’ll teach you whatever you need to know to become a viable rifle marksman and nobody’s going to point or look down on you. They’ll probably look at you with admiration. Showing up knowing squat and having the courage to be taught and to learn under pressure is something we all actually find pretty inspiring. Anyone looking askance at such an act of courage probably lacks that courage themselves.

Class 002: You were all amazing and impressive. I couldn’t be happier with every single shooter out there. Some of you have contacted me lamenting your performance. I can’t imagine thinking like that being sane because I’m personally impressed with every single one of you. I know how challenging that training was and I don’t think I’d have done any better than any of you. That was exactly the point of it, to be extremely challenging. If it’s a real challenge for me as an experienced long range and competitive shooter then it’s going to be serious training for you, not piddle farting around burning a buck-fifty with each trigger pull for nothing. If it’s easy for me then it’s just rehearsing which does nothing to improve performance. I would feel pretty guilty about providing training to people for money that I wouldn’t want to personally spend my time and hard earned money doing.

As an aside: Some of the students reported being a tad unnerved by being physically touched and having appendages and body parts moved around by someone else to get them into a correct position. Well, think of it this way: Those that were so treated had already completely failed at figuring it out after being shown a number of times without physical contact. Continuing to teach those students that way would be like teaching a pig to sing. It’d waste my time and annoy the pig. So, the odd person being unnerved once means they didn’t want us to have to do it a second time and so started to manage their body position and alignment properly from then on. For those people: You’re welcome for burning that into your head and if it unnerved you: Suck it up buttercup. Being gentle with you, dancing around your personal hangups and generally molly coddling you in any way won’t make you a better shooter. If I wanted you to be in your comfort zone I would have done a video and not stepped into the field with you. You don’t learn to change you while you are in your comfort zone. If body position matters and you’re screwing it up then sometimes your instructors need to alter your body position, which means they’ll have to touch you. They’re not molesting you so deal with it like a big kid and move on. The reason our students progress so far so fast is that we train you like grown ups. This isn’t Disneyland, it’s a rifle range. We’re not building happy places, we’re building viable rifleman.

If you don’t think you’re ready, you are. If you think you’re ready, you need to reset your mindset to learn from demonstrate. If you’re not an alumnus or haven’t signed up for training: What the hell are you waiting for?


YouTube De-Monitization, New Patreon Page, New Stuff, Rex Defense Training

YouTube’s ever deepening efforts to estrange an entire half of their customer base has decided to continue and even get more aggressive about demonitizing and even deleting videos. This practice has continued so vigorously that it’s hit my own little obscure channel. Every day another video has the advertising revenue cut. It’s not like I made much from the video views and I certainly never made a dime of profit from the website or selling my ballistics data kits. Actually I took a huge loss on the whole thing but the ad revenue did trickle in a little here and there and now it’s basically gone. That wouldn’t be so bad but even searching for my exact username, channel content, etc… has become unreliable meaning that without the word getting spread the work I do won’t have anybody finding out they can use it and it will die slowly on the vine.

So, in an attempt to truncate the probability of that slow death happening I’ve started a Patreon page ( in the hopes that my user base might see their way to helping me continue to make this product, and more importantly the support services, 100% free to the masses. I don’t want to ask for patronage but at this point it’s very hard to keep pumping money into it at such a high rate. If I could break even I would be elated but anything helps right now.

I’ve taken up with Rex Defense and with YouTube personality TiborasaurusRex as a precision rifle instructor and ballistics instructor for the organization generally and specifically at our long range precision rifle training seminars and live fire courses (see the training tab on for details). That’s not a paying gig at this point though, I hope it might become one. The company needs to get its feet under it before that’ll be a real possibility. If you would like to get your mindset, skills, tactics and gear squared away so you will know you’ll be able to make whatever long range shot you need to make come and train with us. It’s intense training for sure.

On the new stuff front, I’ve released some big upgrades to BallisticXLR and BallisticPRS and will be continuing to release minor updates to expand on those new features. There’s a BDC generator in BallisticXLR now along with a 3×5″ sized hasty DOPE card and in BallisticPRS I’ve deployed a whole set of new 3×5″ data cards from 200-990yrd/m at 500ft density altitude increments for several thousand feet of DA’s and will be releasing slow updates until all of the -4K to +11k foot DA zones in 500ft increments will be deployed soon. I’ve fixed formatting, updated labels, fixed the Extended Data tab’s 5mph winds and added all of the new ELD-M bullets to the projectile database. I’ve released to limited distribution an entirely new version of the spreadsheet called BallisticDLR (Dynamic Long Range) which is meant to be used on a computer to characterize multiple guns, multiple loads, and to provide extremely highly automated firing solutions. It’s best for those that are highly experienced and is really optimized for research and development purposes more than hunting or tactical or competitive pursuits.

Get ready for a lot more videos and more frequent updates to my channel as well as to the spreadsheets. I’ve got a busy month on tap with a lot of content that will come out of it and next year is looking to be especially exciting.

The Apple Doesn’t Fall Far From The Tree – Molestation: Sandusky Stylee

I guess when you’re brought up by a baby raping shit-pile you may just end up messed up right out of the gate. Do we hold this crime against Jerry first and against Jeff second because little Jeffy raped little girls and his dad diddled little boys, likely including Jeff? Or do we take a phenomenological view and hold each’s actions against the actual actor without regard to the crimes of the other? Personally I see this is a family that’s malfunctioning at such a systemic level that it’s not really repairable. There’s nothing left for these shitwads on our planet.

Jeffery Sandusky, Son of Jerry Sandusky Is A Child Rapist Just Like Dad

12lbs of Rosie O’Donnell shit in a 5lbs bag, Jerry Sandusky.

The piece of human excrement pictured above went all gay sex on a bunch of little boys. He not only raped them but physically injured them. His son (pictured below) did it to little girls and we can only assume that human physiology being what it is that physical damage may have been mitigated. That doesn’t stop what he did being just as reprehensible but at least we can say about the little girls that it could have been worse. Yes, it’s poor succor at best but it’s something.

That’s a face you can trust. You can only trust it to rape your daughters but you can trust it to do something.

Perhaps Best Korea has the treatment that that needs applied here. 3 generations sequestered into the torture camps. Make sure their bloodline dies out and that it dies out in excruciating and unending agony. We don’t need their kind on our planet after all.

Well, that amounts to vengeance. It’s not justice. So while I’d love to advocate for the most brutal and horrific punishment to be meted out against the entire Sandusky clan at the hands of vigilance committees, I’ll pull back from that with the intellectual acknowledgement that this is precisely what we put government in place to deal with. I’d also note that the maybe 3 years he’ll do is not just woefully inadequate but a furtherance of the crime committed to those little girls.

Fuck the Sandusky clan. Nope… don’t fuck ’em. Burn Jerry and Jeffery at the stake. Or, leave them in prison for a while. I hear kid rapists are treated to a special fishing trip in prison and that other prisoners take a special interest in making sure they have just the right kind of day. Every day.

Win A Rifle at RX18 Sept.23-24 Rancho Cucamonga, CA

The Rex Reviews Project with generous sponsorship from Box to Bench Precision (makers of one of the most useful new targets to hit the market in years) will be giving away a new Savage 10FCP-SR rifle in 6.5 Creedmore at the RX18 Long Range Seminar later this month in Rancho Cucamonga, California. Tickets for the rifle contest are only $50 each. The rifle package is over a $1200 value.

The Savage 10FCP-SR comes fully equipped. It’s already been supplied with a SWFA 10×42 Super Sniper mil/mil scope and a Harris 6-9″ notch leg swiveling bipod and sighted in for zero and a box test and tall target test run against the optic. This is a ready to rock and roll setup! The rifle is currently being characterized with easily available retail match grade ammunition against a Box2Bench target. Once completed the resultant data is going to be sent to yours truly and used to generate a custom set of ballistic firing tables. I’ll then print out a full B-Feds kit that will be included in the package.

Want your chance at this rifle? Register to attend RX18 at (click on the training button) and when you arrive at the seminar, buy yourself a raffle ticket or two. Or ten. Or 20, or, you know, whatever.

We’re going to have an epic seminar this time. We’ve got Vortex Optics, US Optics, McMillan, Huber Concepts and more coming out with gear to fondle and information to absorb and maybe some really special surprises. Don’t forget about the ever-present special guests we don’t announce until the day of.

If you want to attend the upcoming California Live Fire course you must have attended an RX17 or RX18 event for automatic admittance (within course capacity limits).

Meccastreisand Teaches CitizenV To Shoot A Rifle

CitizenV is a longtime friend of mine but in all the time we’ve known each other this is the first time I’ve gotten her to the range. She grew up in the USSR and had never fired a rifle before this day and wanted to try her hand at long range precision shooting. I figured if TiborasaurusRex can take a brand new shooter and get them up to speed then I can do it too.

Here CitizenV is taking rifle shots from 200meters to 900 yards and she makes it a hit every fun loving time. We honestly weren’t expecting her to make the really long range hits but she did it anyway to make sure nobody doubts her ever again. The first shot in the video was the 1st shot she’d ever fired from a rifle. After that she took aim at the 300m, 385m and 500m targets and had ’em ringing shot after shot. There is one shot there that’s not on film. She mistook me saying to shoot at the pig near the number 3 and shot the number itself instead. That was a hit but not the hit we were wanting. The other footage is nearly uncut and only sacrifices some really tasteless jokes, cuss words and me wiping the sweat from my noggin dozens of times. It was 95 degrees in the shade that day. Didn’t bother CitizenV but it did bother me. My old bones don’t like the heat.

I gave CitizenV about 10 minutes of intensive verbal training before putting her behind a rifle and then actively coached her. By paying attention to and applying the fundamentals of marksmanship and ballistics she was able to reliably put bullets on steel. It’s true what they say, women make better students of rifle craft. Don’t worry guys, I’ll train you too.

If you want the kind of knowledgeable, high quality instruction that can have you hitting at long range your first time out from a team with a proven record of getting novice shooters up to speed quickly, check out the Sniper101 series by TiborasaurusRex (…) and then sign up for an RX17 long range seminar and a live fire course. for training

Video Special – UTG 2: Under the Gun Fo Reelz This Time

For your Halloween enjoyment.

Shooting Guns In Space

I was asked a question recently about shooting a firearm in space, specifically on the Moon but we’ll treat it as space generally and hit some specifics about the moon that are different. We’ll focus on normal “Earth guns”. That is guns that are designed to work on planet Earth within all of the environmental conditions present on the planet.

Shooting in space generally:
We’re going to ignore things like calibre, bullet weight and velocity and just focus on the most trivial bits here first. Shooting a pistol in space would probably not be very mundane but for a few microseconds if we assume that the weapon isn’t exposed to direct sunlight. It could get downright deadly to the shooter though. Space is not just big but super cold. It’s about the coldest environment you could think of. Not much of anything in the universe is much colder, especially if the sun isn’t shining directly on you. Assuming that it’s not then the gun is going to be something crazy like -400 degrees F and change.

At these kinds of temperatures the metal in the gun itself would tend to be very brittle and upon firing it would almost certainly explode unless made from an alloy designed to be flogged near absolute zero. The exploding pieces would be moving at approximately 2/3 of the burn rate of the powder and would certainly wound, if not chew up very badly, the astronaut as well as his space suit so he’d be hurt generally and exposed to the vacuum of space in short order and have his blood likely sucked from his body from any holes that managed to get poked in his skin. Perfect way to ruin a space suit and a day and a pistol.

If the gun was not in the shadow but instead exposed to the sunlight then the side of it that’s lit would rapidly heat while the other side soaks the heat. This would result in some parts of the gun reaching over 200 degrees Fahrenheit and other parts reaching -200 until equilibrium was reached. There’s no air in space so the cool side of the gun wouldn’t conduct and transfer the heat effectively to anything else which means the whole gun will soon be ridiculously hot. This will almost certainly cause malfunctions of the mechanism. Some parts would swell while others might contract. Slide rails and cylinder hands and all the little bits inside the gun that fit so tightly would begin to fit too tightly or not tightly enough and there’s a strong probability that the gun just would not fire. If it did fire there’s a near certainty of some kind of malfunction for anything semi-auto. Revolvers would probably fare pretty well though and single shots might be physically unaffected depending on how robustly they’re constructed.

If it did fire while sizzling hot then the ammo is going to be hot from baking in the chamber and you’re going to find a dangerously overpressure round as your first one and they’ll get worse as you keep (if you can) firing. Eventually you’ll see a kaboom and the brass case will open up and things will get 20 kinds of bad suddenly, very similarly to shooting the gun when it’s -450F and it explodes but this will be higher energy but also probably less destructive to the shooter. Metal is still pretty darned strong when heated to modest temps of a few hundred degrees and so the gun probably wouldn’t explode so much as you’d see the mag launched from the gun, the slide stop broken, a burst cartridge case and that sort of thing. The same sort of thing you’d see from a kaboom on a range on Earth. For a revolver, a loose cylinder gap could be utilized to accommodate the potential for large over-pressures.

Special ammo could be created that’s ultra-high temp compatible but because space is burning hot in the light and freezing cold in the shadow it would almost certainly be either very inconsistent or not very powerful. If something isn’t consistent you don’t want to make it very powerful. Makes hiding from the blast when necessary a harder thing to identify as being necessary.

There’s also the problem of inertia. In space proper, you hold a pistol and shoot directly away from you. Well, unless you’re braced against something that can provide counter thrust then you’re going to be pushed backwards away from the direction the bullet was launched. The bullet will continue forever in a straight line until acted on by a force like gravity or impacting something. So will the shooter. The bullet will move hugely fast but you will not unless the gun you were using was a howitzer. You’ll move backwards from your firing position at a speed relative to the total energy being projected. The bullet will get half and you’ll get half. So if the bullet has 300lbs/ft/sec of energy, so will you and you’ll move away at a speed reflective of that input energy which would be fairly slow even by terrestrial standards.

Shooting On The Moon:
So we’ve dealt with the bits of shooting while floating in space which is where the danger really resides. All of those problems are present on the moon. Light at 250F and dark at -400F is one thing. Micro-gravity is another problem of its own.

Apart from the fact that shooting a firearm on the moon would be a violation of international treaty it could be pretty dangerous too depending on the gun. Since gravity is weaker there the bullet will drop slower meaning if you’re not careful about weapon and ammo selection you might just shoot forward away from yourself and end up with the bullet hitting yourself in the back a few hours later. That would require a nasty fast bullet and is really borderline hyperbole but it’s still potentially true. The bullet’s maximum horizontal range – the distance it travels before gravity pulls it to the ground – is given by the equation:

R = v2 × sin (2a) / g

g is a measure of the strength of gravity. On Earth, it is 9.8 m/s/s. To find g on the Moon, we need another equation:

g = G×M/R2

G is the gravitational constant, M is the mass of the Moon, and R is the radius of the Moon. So, on the Moon:

g = 1.6 m/s2

Acceleration of gravity on earth is 9.81m/s/s. On the Moon it’s 1.622m/s/s. On earth with air resistance a bullet leaving at 3K fps will slow to 1.5K fps by .7KM and will have been flying for about one second meaning it’s fallen 9.81m (darn near 30 feet). On the moon it’d not slow down due to air resistance because there is none and so would fly at 3K fps (~1KM/sec) until acted on by something else to slow it down.

The moon being 10K and change kilometers around a bullet would need 10K and change seconds of flight time to make it around the Moon and hit you in the back if launched at 3K fps. This means that you’d have to launch the bullet from an altitude of over 1.6kilometers and then nearly 3 hours later be standing on the surface to get hit. Like I said, it’s possible technically. The bullet would not fling off into space. Even if you shoot it vertically, it’ll probably still be captured by the Moon’s gravity and eventually return instead of zinging across the solar system.

Truth be told, ballistics on the Moon is massively simple compared to ballistics on the Earth. The Moon rotates on its axis so slowly that vertical coriolis drift are essentially non-factors. Spin drift would also be reduced or nearly eliminated. Horizontal Coriolis drift would continue to be a problem because the Moon is still not a cylinder but instead an oblate spheroid. That makes it so there are really no straight lines when you engage in free flight over the surface. When you fire a gun on the surface of the moon you might get scooted back a tad from where you were standing but not far because there is some gravity there. Just enough gravity to be useful.

Once you’ve made it past the temperature and gravitational effects and the lack of atmospheric drag you get to the other problem: What the hell are you shooting at. There’s nobody there gunna rob you and you can be certain that if you leave your shit there that it will definitely not get stolen. There is also a distinct lack of any sanctioned firing range so the target practice excuse kinda kicks its legs up and dies.

Shooting on the Moon brings with it nearly all the problems of shooting in space (all of them that are problems because of a lack of gravity) and brings with it brand new problems unique to an environment with some gravity, though not much, and with all of the problems of heat/cold and a lacking atmosphere. The benefits of no atmosphere are to be had too. Consider what would happen to a groundhog on the moon if hit by a bullet from 10K kilometers away that was still going 3K fps. You think they fly into the air when hit with a .223 bullet still doing 2K fps after flying 400yrds across a field in South Dakota, wait’ll you see how high they fly when you hit them at 3Kfps from 10,000,000 yards and change. Betcha that surprises the shit out of them.

The ideal gun to shoot in space would be the Gyrojet. The projectiles fired are actually rockets and don’t have a lot of initial thrust (takes a few feet to get really sizzling) so recoil would be minimal and because they’re rockets meant to burn over a respectable amount of time instead of powder meant to burn more or less all at once the shooter is unlikely to be sent whizzing in the opposite direction with much energy.

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